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Abnormal psychology is a facet of psychology that studies abnormalities in people compared to the average of the population. Abnormal psychology, therefore, has “the 4 d’s”, which are:
Deviance, dysfunction, distress and danger.
All 4 of those things that are involved with abnormal psych have to do with the mass immigration into all Western societies around the world. Their behavior is abnormal in the sense that it’s not normal for our societies. In this post today, I will explain how and why mass immigration falls under the umbrella of “the 4 d’s” of abnormal psychology and its consequences for our societies as a whole.
Now I will define the term “Western culture”, which is defined as:
Western culture, sometimes equated with Western civilization, Western lifestyle or European civilization, is a term used very broadly to refer to a heritage of social norms, ethical values, traditional customs, belief systems, political systems, and specific artifacts and technologies that have some origin or association with Europe.
The first “d” of abnormality is “deviance”. Deviance is defined as deviation from the norm. Different, extreme, unusual or bizarre.
A) Thoughts, behaviors and emotions are different from what is considered normal in a specific time or place by people. What I will describe below is how non-Western immigrants have thoughts, behaviors and emotions that are different from what is considered normal in our time, place and by our people.
B) the individual deviates from social norms which are stated and unstated rules for proper conduct in a given society or culture. Deviation from societal norms, i.e., sex with a minor is one major thing that these non-Western immigrants do. They deviate from our societal norms. Most non-Western immigrants do things such as this, along with more, but this is the easiest example to give for this.
C) judgments of abnormality vary from society to society as norms grow from a particular culture. So they depend on circumstance. This is true. Those actions that are considered deviant in our society are not deviant in other societies due to differing cultural norms (which culture is defined by IQ).
The average non-Western immigrant is deviant in comparison to our societal norms. Their morals and way of life differ from that of the average of our societies.
Some good examples are the mass immigration to Europe from Western Asia, as well as mass immigration to America from the South of the border. They bring their cultural values to our countries, then their deviant cultural values start to permeate our society as more and more of them come and they have more and more kids.
Both of those cultures do things that are huge taboos in our own Western societies: mainly courting and having sex with young children, as old as 12 years old.
Ages of consent differ in comparison to which society you look at. For instance in Egypt it’s 18, Northern Ireland is 17, Namibia is 16, Sweden is 15, Canada is 14, Korea is 13 (this is a contradictory law, with the AoC being 19) and Mexico is 12. These are all differing societies with differing racial populations with differing social norms for age of consent.
So those from the South of the border come here, and they bring their cultural values here with them. They then attempt to court and have sex with those same young girls where it would be legal where they come from, but it’s illegal in the US due to our societal norms. Therefore, it is deviant behavior as it goes away from the norm.
The average global age of consent is 16. Though, in those Muslim-Western Asian countries, the AoC is either 16 to 18 or you have to be married. This means they are not following the laws of their home countries when they attempt to court younger women.
This also has to do with their social structure and religion which marries child brides. They bring their culture and ways of life to Europe/America (the same as those from South of the American border), which in turn with more of them coming in, as well as their current birth rates (current birth rates never remain stable, so, to guesstimate what birth rates and trends will look like in 20 to 30 years isn’t good) if they become the majority in our countries, they will, in turn, make their current deviant behavior non-deviant because they then made themselves the majority and, in turn, making their actions the norm and not deviant. This, along with so many more reasons is why we cannot have mass non-Western immigration in to our countries. Their cultural values don’t line up with ours.
Seeing as IQ defines culture, culture doesn’t define IQ, we can see that, on average, those countries with cultures closer to ours have higher average IQs, whereas those countries with cultures further away from our own have lower IQs.
The second “d of abnormality” is dysfunction. Dysfunction is defined as the interference in a person’s ability to conduct daily activities. Their behavior interferes with their ability to conduct day to day activities, because their biology, from which their social structure derives from, doesn’t allow them to function without the dysfunction to be good citizens of our societies. For the behavior to be abnormal, it must be deviant, as well as cause dysfunction.
A) abnormal behavior leads to interference in daily functions. Culture and play a big role. Some examples of dysfunction are as follows:
Social isolation, fear, less sleep, increased appetite, not eating, depression, down mood, self-conscious, hygiene, thinking too much, joy, paranoia, hyperactivity, decrease in motor functions. Those non-Western immigrants are dysfunctional in our societies, due to how they evolved in their own area, which in turn led to their cultural values we see today. A lot of those definitions for “dysfunction” fit most immigrants in to our countries.
The third “d of abnormality” is distress. Distress is defined as being unpleasant or upsetting to the person.
A) according to clinical theorists, behaviors, thoughts, and ideas have to cause distress before they’re considered abnormal. Other theorists may not believe this. I agree with the clinical theorists. Behaviors are abnormal when behaviors, thoughts and ideas cause distress, which of course this distress is deviation from the norm due to their actions.
The non-Western immigrants cause distress by rape, assault, sexual assault, murder, etc. They (Arabs/Muslims) do so because they are so inbred, which in turn leads to them being more genetically similar to their own, which is the cause of strife and distress when they meet up with other ethnic groups when they migrate to other countries that don’t share their cultural norms.
So, behaviors are deviant when they cause distress and move away from societal norms, which then cause dysfunction.
The fourth and final “d of abnormality” is danger. Danger is defined as a person posing risk or harm to others or themselves.
A) abnormal behaviors become dangerous to one’s self or others – behaviors may become careless, hostile or even confused
B) dangerousness tends to be exception rather than rule
The average behavior of those non-Western immigrants is dangerous to us in the West. Their behavior is deviant, which leads to dysfunction, which in turn leads to distress of the people in the area and finally it is dangerous to the population.
They are dangerous to us because they don’t know how to live in our Western societies, they don’t know how to handle themselves around beautiful Western women (because their women are covered up from head to toe all day), so therefore when the average Western Asian sees the average Western woman, they cannot control their urges due to 1) low IQ and 2) higher testosterone. Those with lower IQs cannot control their urges like those with higher IQs. As seen here, those with higher IQs lost their virginity later than those with lower IQs, showing that the higher your IQ, the more you can hold back your urges to have sex.
That’s not to say that all non-Western immigrants act like this. As always, I’m talking about averages. There are those on the right side of The Bell Curve, who are not a representative of their population, so they can assimilate into our culture. But for the vast majority of those people, they cannot assimilate due to lower average IQ as well as their average behavioral patterns for their ethnic group, which causes the “4 d’s of abnormality” as I have listed above.
The same can be said for Negros in America as well. They are deviant, dysfunctional, they cause distress in our country and finally, they pose a danger to us, our families and societies as a whole. Just like those immigrants we have come into our countries who cannot assimilate because it’s not in their biology.
The “4 d’s of abnormality” and how they relate to our culture and the current culture/biology of those non-Western immigrants coming into our country is extremely telling. It’s clear that those people cannot assimilate into our societies because of differing biology and differing locations in which they evolved in. We chose our environments based on our biology. Environment increasingly depends on their genes, rather than being the cause of their exogenous behavior. That says it all. We chose the environments we put ourselves in based on our biology. I will now end with this Douglas Whitman quote, which I have heard called “Whitman’s Law” (great name):
Race is not a social construct. Society is a racial construct. Society and culture derive from race/biology
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Racial Differences are more than skin deep. Below is a list of just a handful.
• One in 400 blacks inherits sickle cell, versus only 1 in 1,000,000 Whites.
• Blacks have wider shoulders than Whites.
• Compared to Whites, Blacks have narrower hips.
• Black athletes have less body fat and more muscles than White athletes.
• Blacks have a longer arm span than Whites.
• The hand of a black is relatively longer than the forearm, compared with a White.
• White men have brains 8.2% larger than Black men do.
• Brains of Whites are on average five cubic inches larger than brains of blacks.
• Teenage Blacks demonstrate a significantly faster patellar (knee) tendon reflex time than White teenagers.
In 1999, even though they only made up 12% of the total US population, blacks accounted for 47% of all new AIDS cases in the United States. (This indicates that either blacks are more biologically susceptible to HIV, they are more sexually active, or both. Even the latter explanation, however, arguably is based on biology.)
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Yep. But most people think that SCA is a ‘black disease’. Couldn’t be further from the truth. SCA appears in those areas where it’s more tropical, with a warmer climate.
Evolutionary advantage to be able to throw things further distances.
Yep. Those narrower hips help blacks run faster. The more wide hips for whites allow for bigger brained babes. Same with East Asians. Blacks birth canal is smaller, which I have a picture on the bottom of my blog that shows the differences between black and white birth canals, on average. Less wide hips are also better for more speed production as well.
Yep. In this study by Wagner and Heyward, they note that biological differences exist between blacks and whites. They reviewed the literature on the differences between blacks and whites in fat free body mass (water, mineral and protein) fat patterning and and body dimensions and proportions. Blacks, in general, have greater bone mineral density and body protein content than do whites, resulting in lower fat free bone density. They also note racial differences in the differences of subcutaneous body fat, which is the body fat that’s just below the skin, as opposed to visceral body fat which is found in the peritoneal cavity, which can be measured with calipers to give a rough estimate of total body fat adiposity. The conclusion reached in the study was that differences in FFB (fat free body) was statistically significant between blacks and whites. They also have a greater BMC (bone mineral content) and BMD (bone mineral density) than do whites. They also argue that for a given BMI (body mass index), blacks might have less adiposity because they tend to be more mesomorphic. Researchers push for the development of racial-specific equations to better see differences in FFB.
Never heard that before, got a source?
One of my favorite cites. Showing selection pressures for bigger brains, which leads to higher intellect.
Interesting. Never heard that one before either. Have a cite? Probably has to do with fast twitch muscle fibers, I’d imagine.
Yep. I need to write a post on this. I have all of the sources for it. Blacks are more likely to be “downlow bruthas”, as well as blacks being the most likely to be sodomites. They then go home to their wives/girlfriend and give the sodomite diseases to their spouses, who then further put it out into the population. Will make a post on that soon.
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They said the same about you Italians.
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That’s nice. MENA and SSA people are abnormal to Western societies. It’s clear that, on average, full-on acclimation is not possible.
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“It’s clear that, on average, full-on acclimation is not possible.”
This is incorrect. Full acculturation is a demonstrated fact observed in many if not most individuals. The question is what % cannot/will not conform to norms. It’s the same problem with the white underclass. There is a % of the white population that cannot/will not conform. That non-conforming % is higher in blacks and browns.
In addition to that, there is the actual racial barrier or boundary between white and black. You can see a part of that play out in the fact that mixed race individuals will inevitable identify as black, even if their white % approaches 100%.
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I would assume a lot. More than welcome to be shown wrong though. Look at Europe. Would that be a good sample?
This largely comes down to IQ. What’s the average of the countries MENA and SSA peoples come from? Lower than the white average, meaning less of a chance to acclimate.
They identify as black because they look black more often than not. They also have more behavioral problems than monoracial people.
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Thanks for getting rid of the dots and thanks for the info on fish oil supplement safety.
I prefer to stick to the US. I don’t consider myself knowledgeable about race and ethnicity in Europe.
I agree that IQ is the driver, but look at your face page graph. Look at the black distribution at 90 and above. Most of those blacks will not have any trouble conforming and obtaining some measure of economic success in the US.
You have to keep individual differences separate from group differences.
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The dots was snow. I was feeling festive. Fish oil is great.
Of course. On that same token, more whites than blacks would be down-and-out—and this is what you see. But correcting for population size, etc. IQ does explain a lot especially when black IQ is set to 100, a lot of racial differences almost disappear or even reverse substantially. See The Bell Curve. Most racial differences come down to IQ.
Always. You can’t judge someone’s IQ just by knowing their race.
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I caught a snippet on the radio today of some European study that showed a 30% decrease in asthma in children of women who took fish oil during pregnancy. The speculation was that it was reducing the proclivity for inflammation in the lungs.
Yes, I am not so sure that many of the personality and behavior traits will not ultimately be shown to be tied to IQ.
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It was definitely reducing inflammation from the lungs. Fish oil (n-3 specifically) is amazing. The benefits cannot be overstated.
Low intelligence is correlated with crime. Higher IQ people are more likely to be introverted while lower IQ people are more likely to be extroverted. IQ doesn’t explain a lot, I think it doesn’t explain out of wedlock births, I’ll check my book later.
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Only to racists. I’m SSA and I’ve never felt abnormal. In fact I was called an all-American boy growing up — by whites.
Maybe you need a new schtick.
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Due to average behavior (due to their IQ and culture), MENA and and SSAs are abnormal to the West. These immigrants fit the 4 ds of abnormality.
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Let’s compare Italian immigrants to African immigrants.
Italian immigrants (your people) came to this country and began a campaign of terror involving every conceivable criminal enterprise. At one point Italian mafias were deemed a national security threat to the United States. We marshaled every element of our national power to fight them at an incalculable cost. They are still a major threat today, despite the massive crackdown against them. Without steady law enforcement pressure they would destroy this country.
On the other hand, African immigrants come here, work hard, go to school, raise their families and contribute positively to the United States. African immigrants are some of the best scholars in the country. They have strong family units with very little out of wedlock births or single family households. They are more successful than whites as a group in terms of educational and occupational attainment.
So which group is abnormal to the West again?
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How many Italian immigrants do this today? The Mafia is a blip on the radar. I don’t defend criminal activity, but Italians are ultra successful in America.
I know that African immigrants to America have a higher collegiate attainment than white Americans. It’s called “super-selection”.
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Yes, due to the immense resources we’ve devoted to its destruction the Italian mafia is on the decline. But don’t you believe that everything comes down to genes? Therefore should we not be extra vigilant against people who, according to your own theories, are genetically hardwired for this kind of criminality and destructiveness? People who, historically, have demonstrated that they are abnormal to decent, orderly and peaceful society.
You have no evidence of any super selection. Nevertheless, why would you describe as abnormal to Western society people with a higher collegiate attainment than white Americans? Could it be that you’re just an anti-black racist? Why not simply admit that? There are a lot of admitted and avowed racists on the Internet. It’s not as if you’re writing under your real identity.
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How do you define racist? However you define it, isn’t anti-black racist redundant?
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Most of the Mafia is old now. They’ll go away soon enough. You should be extra vigilant against whoever you want. If you want to be that way around Italians, that’s on you. But if you’re talking about aggressive and violent crimes, look no further than to black on white crimes. They far outnumber white on black crime.
The more intelligent have the means to leave while the less intelligent stay in the native country. I’m not a ‘racist’ (whatever that means), I’m interested in the science and evolution of human differences.
iffen, it’s always the go-to in a completely serious discussion.
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Want evidence for super-selection? Right here. It doesn’t speak to the brain drain, but that’s to be expected with the more intelligent and educated Nigerians leaving the country. And not coincidentally, these people have high emigration rates to the UK where they gave high educational achievement.
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The book is about high achieving second generation Nigerian Americans. The people you said are abnormal to society (whatever that means). The book is not not about any alleged brain drain. There is no Nigerian brain drain and the smartest Nigerians are not necessarily immigrating. The immigration process has no way of selecting for high intelligence. A dumb Nigerian with helpful relatives in the United States has a much better chance of immigrating than a smart Nigerian. And, by the way, American born persons cannot constitute a brain drain on a foreign country.
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You can infer brain drain from the high achievement. It doesn’t need to be explicitly spelled out.
How do you know that the smartest Nigerians aren’t emigrating? Look at the UK and the educational achievement of Yoruba and Ibo people. Proof enough right there.
And people born in the US do constitute brain drain as if they wouldn’t have emigrated, they’d be able to help their native country.
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No. The only thing that can be inferred and that is in fact provable is that hard work and positive cultural practices are conducive to high achievement. There is absolutely no evidence that only the smartest Africans immigrate to the United States or the the U.K. or elsewhere. It’s a white supremacist talking point that is meant to reconcile their theory of black inferiority with the reality of high achieving black immigrants. You fail miserably though.
In her book The Triple Package, Amy Chau argues that Nigerians are among a group of ethnic groups that have a “cultural edge.” According to her the trifecta of traits that drive success are:
A superiority complex
Insecurity
Impulse control
Unlike your wishing, hoping and praying, Chau’s work is meticulously researched and documented. There is no reference to immigration selection biases, brain drains or any other such unproven nonsense.
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I agree with you. Only if the innate ability is already there though.
It’s a legitimate argument. The more intelligent emigrate. They then have high achievement in the country they emigrate to. Blacks are ‘inferior’? Search the word “inferior”, “superior” and “progress” here and tell me what comes up.
Impulse control is correlated with IQ. Thank you for proving my point. I don’t deny that insecurity and a superiority complex could contribute to this, because motivation matters for (IQ) test scores. This effect obviously would hold for all tests.
Does it need to be explicitly spelled out for you? Do you need to see the words “super-selection to believe it? Or can you infer something like this from data points?
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Your Italian mafia, certainly abnormal, was a cultural value brought over from Italy. It has done incalculable damage to this country.
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Is the Mafia still around? Last I heard of them they said IS better “stay out of New York”.
The Mafia is prevalent in the northeast, yet I’ve never heard anything in all my life about it. I know, exactly. The Mafia sucks. They are a drain everywhere they go, I’m not going to defend criminal activities. But Italians have fully acclimmated into American society.
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Yes, the Italian mafia is still around:
http://aboutthemafia.com/2016-mafia-family-leaders
They’ve even hooked up with the Latin American drug cartels:
http://www.insightcrime.org/news-briefs/massive-bust-highlights-italian-mafia-involvement-in-latam-drug-trade
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Last I heard of them they told IS to stay out of New York. They’ve lost numbers in the past few decades though. They’ll wither away eventually.
My statement still stands: Italians have fully acclimated to American society.
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@Chinedu
The mafia began in areas settled by refugees from what is today called Albania. In that area the Greeks and the people later to be called Albanian lived cheek by jowl in clans which then disperse to avoid being force converted to Islam. Many went to Italy and that is likely the origin of the mafia, not the Beati Paoli. Also, the mafia diminished from what it was, and I believe it was heavily overstated at the time even, due to the fact that there was nothing else like it before in a largely law abiding society. Unfortunately, people who are not Italian have romanticized and popularized them on the screen.
Yes, Italians have acclimated just fine, even too much I’d say, as almost none know any of their language.
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[…] Source: Non-Western People are Abnormal to Our Societies […]
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Very poorly written article. Would have expected this from someone under 18, or still in high school. Since no attribution is given to who wrote it. one would, or could, assume it was someone writing from a white supremacist background
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Was anything I wrote incorrect? Did it hurt your feelings? Why must you be fallacious? “White supremacist background”? Appeal to motive (and you’re assuming as well), nice job!
It seems this article struck a nerve with you. Why? Does the truth hurt? We tell politically incorrect truth here, if you don’t like the truth then you don’t have to read it.
You should have read a few more of my articles, if you did, you’d see that I don’t believe in supremacy and it’s a retarded word to use when speaking of evolutionary biology.
Let me know what I wrote that was incorrect. Then we can discuss it. Don’t waste my time with bullshit. If you’re going to reply, make sure it’s of substance and is directly related to what I wrote, if not, don’t respond. I don’t have time to waste on childish garbage.
Keep assuming and making fallacious statements though, that’s clearly more your level.
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Weren’t the (((Italian))) mafia
jewish gangsters and therefore
not Italian at all, , ,
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“The average non-Western immigrant is deviant in comparison to our societal norms. Their morals and way of life differ from that of the average of our societies.”
True. Non-Western immigrants come from societies with their own set of norms, values, morals, etc which are often different or even at odds with those found in the Western world. And this is why assimilation is so important but we seem to be in place today where instead of assimilating into Western society (adopting our norms, values, etc) is resisted by Non-Western immigrants.
Cultures clash and this is what we are seeing today in the US and in Europe and one reason for this clash is that Non-Western immigrants, unlike those immigrants who came before them, no longer try to assimilate into Western culture. Instead, they wish to maintain their own culture and this is where the clash develops. So, yes, in terms of our Western cultural norms the Non-Western immigrants are deviant.
“Their cultural values don’t line up with ours.”
No they do not. In some cultures once boys hit puberty they are deemed men and girls, women. These cultures don’t have “magic ages” when one becomes an adult like the age 18 we have in America. In fact MOST past cultures have deemed boys, men and girls, women once they are able to reproduce. But in the US this is taboo. We see having sex with anyone under 18 as criminal but in other societies it is not criminal but “normal.” That said, I think that immigrants should assimilate into our society not visa versa, frankly.
“The average behavior of those non-Western immigrants is dangerous to us in the West. Their behavior is deviant, which leads to dysfunction, which in turn leads to distress of the people in the area and finally it is dangerous to the population.”
Europe is now at the danger point IMO. Rapes committed by groups of male immigrants from the Middle East are skyrocketing. And, there are now entire neighborhoods in major European cities where the police will not even go or patrol. And, yet, some European leaders such as Angela Merkel of Germany are calling for more immigrants! Europe, in effect, is committing suicide.
“There are those on the right side of The Bell Curve, who are not a representative of their population, so they can assimilate into our culture.”
Yes they are capable of assimilating but they refuse. Instead they expect us to conform to their culture. The very culture they LEFT!
In conclusion, race is NOT a social construct it is a fact. There are physical and mental differences between the races. The “PC self appointed police” would have us believe that we are all the same but that is far from being the truth and they know it. For myself, if you come to our country then you SHOULD assimilate to OUR culture! And you should NOT expect our culture to conform to the cultural norms, values, morals (or lack thereof) that you left behind.
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Hmmm. The elite White folks are a tiny ethnic minority. In the not so distant past, they always looked to the tropics for huge wealth, at the macro level. The saga continues.
By the way, I will like to know a bit about my possible ethnicity. Kindly quell my curiosity.
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I agree with your first paragraph. However in the modern world things have changed. There is huge untapped potential in the tropics due to the how many resources there are.
In regards to your second paragraph, I don’t know you so I can’t make an assessment.
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You consider yourself to be Phd. in HBD yet you fail to answer a simple question of mine.
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Well first of all he has only ever stated to be a professional in nutrition on this blog, not “HBD” which isn’t even an specific field that you can earn one in.
“More significantly, the Tropics have gigantic populations and thus, enormous wealth, at the macro level.”
Define “Macro Level”, yeah it has alot of wealth to distribute throughout it’s population but doesn’t distribute it well. The Wealth, like in highly populated tropics like Nigeria, is mainly from resources and perhaps Tourism.
Basically what RR said. Unless you mean those populations ARE the wealth itself…which certainly wasn’t the case was in the past unless they were used for labor. Even in the past they didn’t simply go to the tropics for labor even during the Transatlantic trade with Africa, they eventually wetn for other resources.
As for determining your ethnicity, your photo alone only provides Ideas of you genetic cluster which is much more broad than ethnicity. But judging by your comments on Lindsay’s blog it narrows you down to a person of the Indian Subcontinent who aligns more with the Ancient North Indian cluster that aligns with Neolithic Caucasus ancestry and Indo Aryan Steppe ancestry.
This blog doesn’t do much of the “race guessing” though I personally know a thing or two on basic phenotypes, try blogs/forums like Dodona, Anthroscape, and Theapricity.
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More significantly, the Tropics have gigantic populations and thus, enormous wealth, at the macro level.
That’s my fb profile, with some real pictures of mine. Kindly make an assessment, if you can. Thanks.
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Pardon my insolence, politicallyincorrect.me sounds a lot more appropriate than notpoliticallycorrect.me
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The European colonizers, other than the Spaniards and the Portuguese, never had a liking for the tropics. That’s why they did not wipe out the native populations of the resource rich tropics.
However, they did find the Asiatic populations to be of moderate to good intelligence besides being far, far cheaper and docile. That is why they quite involved them in the administration even though at the lower levels.
Of course, the surplus unskilled and semi-skilled labour of the tropics was always theirs for the taking. Precisely, that’s what started the negro slave trade in Africa.
Besides, gigantic populations, every where, including in the pretty simple, low consuming societies necessarily imply huge demand for the basic necessities of life. The Anglo-Saxon colonizers had all the power and sophistication in the world to literally kill the indigenous industries in such heavily populated colonies.
One should make the maximum use of the available materials etc. etc.
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“The European colonizers, other than the Spaniards and the Portuguese, never had a liking for the tropics. That’s why they did not wipe out the native populations of the resource rich tropics.”
Never disagreed with that point.
“Of course, the surplus unskilled and semi-skilled labour of the tropics was always theirs for the taking. Precisely, that’s what started the negro slave trade in Africa.”
Actually, at that point there was already slave trading in Africa and the reason why the traded slaves was because the African already in the process of collecting slaves for their own states.
“Besides, gigantic populations, every where, including in the pretty simple, low consuming societies necessarily imply huge demand for the basic necessities of life. The Anglo-Saxon colonizers had all the power and sophistication in the world to literally kill the indigenous industries in such heavily populated colonies.
One should make the maximum use of the available materials etc. etc.”
The only near complete genocide/relocation under Anglo expansion to new continents was with Native Americans and Australians/tasmanians, both were aided by low population densities and diseases and not just warfare.
Otherwise, killing of so many people instead of using them to there advantage for resources would’ve been a net waste of resources.
Regarding “huge demands”, be specific. The resources of less advance societies to thrive under a british empire would hardly require more provided beyond the British equivalent to donated goods or standard working class accommodations at best.
In addition to this being provided along with a workforce adapted to an environment to extract resources or to stay out of the way (with poor accommodations) would hardly be a huge demand from an empire with the military resources to kill of such gigantic populations.
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America and Australia were not exactly in the Tropics. Besides, the Anglo-Saxon colonizers found the natives of both to be far less ‘civilized’ than the Asiatics. Trust me, these White folks are quite capable of anything and everything once they deem it necessary to protect or further their interests. Count your blessings.
The Negro slave trade picked up and flourished entirely because of the huge plantations in the New World. The captured Negros were not only shit cheap but potentially excellent farm workers.
You seem to be completely ignorant of the huge markets for many things in the Asian countries. The East India Company etc. etc. were quite aware of the ‘riches’ of the Asian countries. That’s why they either completely destroyed the indigenous industries or played the nosy, exploitative middlemen as much as they possibly could.
I was talking about making the maximum use of the available resources, at the personal level. I was actually asking for a candid opinion on my possible ethnicity or the possible genetic cluster.
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Get a Y and mtDNA test/Ancestry DNA/23andMe etc.
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“America and Australia were not exactly in the Tropics. Besides, the Anglo-Saxon colonizers found the natives of both to be far less ‘civilized’ than the Asiatics. Trust me, these White folks are quite capable of anything and everything once they deem it necessary to protect or further their interests. Count your blessings.”
I counted them as the only times anything like a genocide occurred. Unless you have an actual source of the destructive capabilities of the british Empire on “gigantic populations”, I won’t simply “take your word on White Folks”.
“The Negro slave trade picked up and flourished entirely because of the huge plantations in the New World. The captured Negros were not only shit cheap but potentially excellent farm workers.”
Negro Trade=/= Transatlantic trade. As I said, trade with other empires prior to White folk already took place. You are talking about why it persisted, that’s different what started it and what drove the empire to Africa.
Even prior to actually claiming territory, Europeans spoke of the unused resources they could use, Slave trading wasn;t the primary attraction but was a significant one.
“You seem to be completely ignorant of the huge markets for many things in the Asian countries. The East India Company etc. etc. were quite aware of the ‘riches’ of the Asian countries. That’s why they either completely destroyed the indigenous industries or played the nosy, exploitative middlemen as much as they possibly could.”
You are describing the destruction of native cultures due to economic expansion, nothing new.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_India_Company
“Originally chartered as the “Governor and Company of Merchants of London trading into the East Indies”, the company rose to account for half of the world’s trade, particularly in basic commodities including cotton, silk, indigo dye, salt, saltpetre, tea and opium. The company also ruled the beginnings of the British Empire in India.[3]”
Like I said, native resources. Whether or not the exploited the people doesn’t change that they were after their resources and that the people were the labor used to obtain them by whatever way they did, that didn’t make the people in turn “direct wealth” due to their large population.
“I was talking about making the maximum use of the available resources, at the personal level.”
Yet you began by describing the trend of whites looking towards the Tropics for wealth, their focus being the people rather than resources.
Using the people didn’t mean they were the focus, it was the resources they had.
” I was actually asking for a candid opinion on my possible ethnicity or the possible genetic cluster.”
In that case, forgetting your background, I would say you would cluster likely with West Asians groups, just going by your profile.
To be more specific I would need a profile shot to indicate your Cephalic index.
But, due to your face shape, I would guess either the Caucasus of South West Asia as you seem to indicate a Brachycephalic head shape.
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This is what Napoleon Bonaparte thought about the Orientals:
” Europe is a molehill. All great empires and revolutions have been on the Orient; six hundred millions live there.”
Huge populations do generate adequate wealth, in the aggregate, irrespective of the individual consumption levels. In fact, the biggest strength of the White States of America vis-à-vis the other developed nations is it’s gigantic population.
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“Huge populations do generate adequate wealth, in the aggregate, irrespective of the individual consumption levels. In fact, the biggest strength of the White States of America vis-à-vis the other developed nations is it’s gigantic population.”
Whether or not huge populations generate wealth wasn’t what I was arguing against, My point is that it wasn’t the huge population of tropics as a workforce that attracted “Whites” to the Tropics, it was natural resources.
That’s not saying labor wasn’t valued, but it wasn’t there primary motivation for the Tropics.
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There weren’t huge populations in the tropics.
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To Afro,
He’s mainly referring to the “asian tropics”, which compared to Africa were more dense.
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It’s incredible to think that deviance, dysfunction, distress and danger did not exist in America until black people arrived.
Who were shipped to America as the principle commodity of a deviant economic system, resulting in dysfunction, great distress and mortal danger to millions of Africans.
Oh…
Thanks again. Another hilarious piece of work
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Did you know the black tribal Africans who sold them were going to eat them otherwise?
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America belongs to Amerindians the same as europe belongs to europeans.
Time to go back to europe, subhuman.
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No.
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