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I was alerted to an article on the website (Ir)”RationalWiki” which in their own words “critique[s] and challenge[s] pseudoscience and the anti-science movement, explore[s] authoritarianism and fundamentalism, and analyze[s] how these subjects are handled in the media.” Unfortunately, it seems like the one who wrote this article (and is still adding to it) just selectively read certain articles and quote mined them.
The article on this website about me is an unfair mischaracterization of my views. Quotes will follow from the article with my comments.
In the opening paragraph they write:
NotPoliticallyCorrect is an Alt-right blog that promotes racialist pseudoscience and white nationalism; the owner posts as RaceRealist using the euphemism “racial realist” coined by the white supremacist J. P. Rushton who is extensively quoted on the blog.
- I’m not alt-right nor am I a white nationalist.
- I don’t promote ‘racialist pseudoscience’ nor do I promote ‘white nationalism’.
- Correct, Rushton did coin the term ‘race realist’, but he was not a ‘white supremacist’.
They continue, quoting an article of mine that I wrote almost two years ago titled Non-Western People are Abnormal to Our Society. I still stand by everything that I wrote in that article.
They continue:
A racist crank obsessed with controversial topics such as race and IQ and eugenics, RaceRealist argues in a 2016 blog essay “Non-Western People are Abnormal to Our [Western] Societies”[1] and its comments[2] that “MENA” and “SSA’s” (i.e. people from the Middle-East, North Africa and Sub-Saharan Africa) as well as other non-Westerners are somehow abnormal to the US and Europe:
They then quote me:
MENA and SSA people are abnormal to Western societies. It’s clear that, on average, full-on acclimation is not possible.
One only needs to look at what is occurring in Western European countries to see that, on average, this is true.
They continue:
In the same essay, RaceRealist goes on to post crude racism, such as “Negros” are biologically inferior:
Quoting me writing:
The same can be said for Negros[sic] in America as well. They are deviant, dysfunctional, they cause distress in our country and finally, they pose a danger to us, our families and societies as a whole. Just like those immigrants we have come into our countries who cannot assimilate because it’s not in their biology.
Except everything I wrote here was logically sound (last sentence notwithstanding). Look at the 4 d’s of abnormal psychology (which is the next quote they provide):
The “4 d’s of abnormality” and how they relate to our culture and the current culture/biology of those non-Western immigrants coming into our country is extremely telling. It’s clear that those people cannot assimilate into our societies because of differing biology and differing locations in which they evolved in. We chose our environments based on our biology. Environment increasingly depends on their genes, rather than being the cause of their exogenous behavior.
The 4 d’s of abnormality are deviance, dysfunction, distress and danger. Everything I wrote and then provided examples for in regards to the 4 d’s of abnormality are sound.
You can read my article Diversity in the Social Context for more evidence for this argument.
They then quote my article The Evolution of Jewish Nepotism writing:
RaceRealist is an anti-Semite who dislikes Ashkenazi Jews, accusing them of “derogating other ethnicities”; when discussing Ashkenazi Jews, he bizarrely maintains their higher average IQ is partly a product of “breeding with beautiful Roman women a few thousand years ago”,[3] for which there exists no evidence.
I admit it is conjecture. Evidence exists for Jewish men migrating to Rome to mate with Roman women (Atzmon et al, 2010). I never stated that I ‘dislike Ashkenazi Jews’. In regards to the derogation, it’s true. Close-knit ethnic groups derogate the out-group (Sampasivam et al, 2016). Further, oxytocin promotes human ethnocentrism, which caused in-group favoritism and out-group derogation (Drew et al, 2010). In-groups derogate out-groups. Read the literature.
And the final thing the page shows is my tweet saying that “I finally made it on (Ir)”RationalWiki””:
to which they wrote:
Twitter contributor Race Realist Eighty frickin’ Eight wishes to make it absolutely clear to everyone that he does not in fact consider himself “altright” and certainly not a “white nationalist”.[4]
Just because I have the numbers “88” in my handle doesn’t make me “alt-right” nor does it make me a “white nationalist.” I thought about changing it, then I realized that it’s good to weed out the people who aren’t serious about discussion and just look for things to discredit people that are meaningless to the conversation at hand. It tells you a lot about someone when they bring up irrelevant things. I’m not a white nationalist, nor am I an alt-righter. Just because I write about politics rarely and use them as an example (like in my article The Rise of Ethnocentrism and the Alt-Right: The Rebirth of Selfish Genes which I also disavow now that I realize that ‘selfish genes’ are a metaphor; Noble, 2011; Noble, 2013; Noble et al, 2014).
Take a look at the tags it tagged the article with: “Alt-righters, Pseudoscience, Racists, Internet kooks, Psuedoscience promoters, Alt-right, Internet Hate Sites.” Not an alrighter, I don’t push psuedoscience, I’m not a ‘racist’ (whatever that means). If you don’t like what I write, respond to any article you disagree with and explain why with logical, rational arguments. This piece is garbage and mischaracterizes my views using selective quotations (which, even then, failed to prove their point. No, numbers after a username are not evidence).
All in all, this article is garbage. It says that Rushton is ‘extensively quoted’, which is true for what I wrote in the beginning of this blog’s history, but not so for the past, say, 18 months. Rushton has been the target of my attacks on penis size, testosterone, and my personal favorite, r/K selection theory. But sure, go and dig in the archives for old articles to quote mine. This article written about me is dumb, doesn’t characterize my views correctly (calls me a ‘white nationalist’ and ‘alt-righter’). Selectively quote certain articles, assert that Rushton is ‘extensively quoted’ when I hardly discuss him anymore and when I do it’s about testosterone/to rebut him. (Ir)RationalWiki should think about reading a bit of my blog before characterizing me as something I’m not.
For the record, I don’t care about politics. I am not alt-right. I am not a white nationalist. I’m not an anti-semite. This will be updated to cover whatever else they decide to write about me. Hopefully it’s at least a bit closer to reality next time, because this article sucks.
NotPoliticallyCorrect 
While I like your defense, I suggest at somepoint (not immediately), if you stand by your points on abnormality of different groups in technical terms you should either bolster or update your previous views.
The way they took your quotes on the matter clearly shows how much politics can be inserted in your past work.
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Indeed, I don’t think this Rationalwiki page is undeserved. This blog has
serious “public relations” issues.
If I discovered the blog today, stumbling upon three or four random articles (no one ever reads all articles) , with the names “notpoliticallycorrect”, “race realist88”, the pioneer fund portraits and all other references to HBD, I would classify it as altright pseudoscience and I would find many things to quote to illustrate its ideological flavor.
I understand that it’s too late to make the blog more politically neutral, but there could be a disclaimer about the articles that you don’t endorse anymore.
PS: I think this psychological abnormality post is utter garbage, adds no value to the blog (just like abnormal psychology adds nothing whatsoever to science in general). There are some other older posts that significantly hurt the credibility of the blog.
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Precisely.
I personally agree that groups within borders that have different interests will result in consequences in regards to crime, economics, and to what some will call “vigor”, but in my experience of what can essentially be described as the “left” and “right” cross examining eachother’s data, to my knowledge there is a lack of verified data to be paired with verified solution without the lenses of political bias.
Without being to exhaustive, while you have those on the left offended of even bringing up the possibility, you have those on right seeing things in black and white. Next thing you know, which is the most irritating thing, is when the matter is debated on morally or practically defining the borders of people’s welfare to maintain.
With the current methods and perspectives on this blog I would suggest, in turn, a frame work of updated data on immigrant and minority crime/ financial pro and cons pf each group’s presence, causes, and solutions to whatever problems may exist.
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Nah, the main issue is that there is no scientifically sound approach to these politically-charged topics. Discussing them can only lead to politically biased conclusions, therefore, they have nothing to do on a blog that intends to deal with science. There is no biology of immigration, biology of diversity, biology of nepotism and so on, all that doesn’t belong here. Let’s leave it to the alt-right.
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“Nah, the main issue is that there is no scientifically sound approach to these politically-charged topics. Discussing them can only lead to politically biased conclusions, therefore, they have nothing to do on a blog that intends to deal with science. ”
I would agree, but many are going to try regardless. I find it at least helpful to highlight what we do and don’t know regardless rather than forcing direct answers.
“There is no biology of intelligence, biology of diversity, biology of nepotism and so on, all that doesn’t belong here. Let’s leave it to the alt-right.”
The thing is though the Alt right aren’t the only ones investigating it, professionals do as well. However, not necessarily for the same reasons or with good methodology.
For the sake of misconceptions, some ought to be there to “put out the fire”. We seen how they acted towards a few teeth,
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“The thing is though the Alt right aren’t the only ones investigating it, professionals do as well.”
These professionals are “social scientists”. I think RR could afford touching social sciences now and then if the blog was politically neutral (instead of notpoliticallycorrect) and if his narrative was more balanced/objective. But when you’re saying “Negros are dysfunctional, deviant, distressful and dangerous”, “Jews are nepotist, derogatory of other groups, and dated beautiful Roman women” you’re not doing science at all. None of it can be translated in purely biologic terms (nor makes any biological sense) so you’re just sounding like a basic racist. That’s how it comes off, these could be the words of Spencer or Anglin and there’s no way to defend it as an objective, unbiased description of a scientific reality.
Then you and I know RR has revised some of his positions, but we also know that his mindset was definitely alt-right when those articles were written. So he must let the reader know which articles are representative of his current opinions and which articles aren’t. The simplest, clearest way would be to suppress them, that’s what I’d do.
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“These professionals are “social scientists”. I think RR could afford touching social sciences now and then if the blog was politically neutral (instead of notpoliticallycorrect) and if his narrative was more balanced/objective. But when you’re saying “Negros are dysfunctional, deviant, distressful and dangerous”, “Jews are nepotist, derogatory of other groups, and dated beautiful Roman women” you’re not doing science at all. None of it can be translated in purely biologic terms (nor makes any biological sense) so you’re just sounding like a basic racist. That’s how it comes off, these could be the words of Spencer or Anglin and there’s no way to defend it as an objective, unbiased description of a scientific reality.”
I think my quote was misinterpreted. I’ve only mentioned “professionals” because simply they also mention the topic you brought up and maybe referred to be RR (like with his oxytocin article). I even mention that their methods may be flawed as well given the state of psychology at this point.
Regardless, I agree with what you said.
“Then you and I know RR has revised some of his positions, but we also know that his mindset was definitely alt-right when those articles were written. So he must let the reader know which articles are representative of his current opinions and which articles aren’t. The simplest, clearest way would be to suppress them, that’s what I’d do.”
Suppressing the opinion themselves and mindset, I agree. I only suggested in the beginning that additionally he should either use better logic than he once used in his opinions or revise them if he would revisit them for the sake of that being clear.
I just felt just leaving the opinions without updating his position would hurt his credibility.
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Yeah. Discussing science implies adopting the language of science (“Negroes are this, Jews are that” isn’t science), the neutrality of science (science is not politically correct or incorrect) and sticking to facts as much as possible (which means not linking scientific findings to social issues to support political opinions).
This is the only way one can avoid being ideologically labeled. You just put the plain facts in a neutral way and let people make all the social or political extrapolations they want to. It would be very hard to make a purely scientific article on the topics that two quoted posts deal with because they virtually have no scientific basis at all, like 100% of the attempts to explain ethnic dynamics through a biologic lens, but there are plenty of ways to discuss population differences in biology in a completely neutral and non-controversial way.
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PS: To all the “race realists” of this world, “Blacks are this, Jews are that” isn’t scientific, not even “on average”, only individuals exist as a material reality and no one is an average individual of any group. People are a lot more than data points on a graph. Also, “race realist” and other codewords are not fooling anyone, just say “racist” and people will at least appreciate your honesty and be spared the embarrassment of seeing someone believing to have a monopoly on realism.
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One day I’d like to see “race realists” talking only about whites (not in comparison to others) just to see how good they would be at stereotyping their own people. This should be easier than talking about other people whose life they don’t know and have no genuine interest in. But weirdly, we hardly see any explanation for the various forms of white dysfunction, which we all know exists.
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Hey Afrosapien! About “whites dysfunction”, what do you think of the Caspi 2016 study that I posted just now? The subjects were from new zealands.
Doesn’t it remind you of a certain group in USA?
Also, when will you have twitter man?
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“Hey Afrosapien! About “whites dysfunction”, what do you think of the Caspi 2016 study that I posted just now? The subjects were from new zealands.”
Well, I think people facing some specific circumstances have a tendency to exhibit certain traits. “Underclasses” exist in every population. Some populations have larger underclasses than others, but there are many much more plausible explanatory factors than biology.
“Doesn’t it remind you of a certain group in USA?”
Yeah, of course. Well I can think of many groups in fact.
“Also, when will you have twitter man?”
I already have a throwaway account. @CanWeChill44
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“I don’t promote ‘racialist pseudoscience’ nor do I promote ‘white nationalism’.”
” The same can be said for Negros[sic] in America as well. They are deviant, dysfunctional, they cause distress in our country and finally, they pose a danger to us, our families and societies as a whole. Just like those immigrants we have come into our countries who cannot assimilate because it’s not in their biology.”
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Quote mining close to a two year old article means I ‘promote white naturalism and racial pseudoscience.’ Got it.
See, if people like you were to really read my blog you’d see that I deride genetic determinism. Everything I said about the “4 d’s” is true at this moment in America.
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“See, if people like you were to really read my blog you’d see that I deride genetic determinism.”
RR, no one will read all the articles.
“Everything I said about the “4 d’s” is true at this moment in America.”
No, one can argue that whites are dysfunctional (white trash), deviant (Hollywood, Hiptsers, Off the grid people), distressful (opioid epidemics) and dangerous (police brutality, KKK…) and therefore can’t be assimilate to the black population due to their biology. Same goes with calling Jews nepotist, there are plenty ways in which whites and most people on earth exhibit nepotist behaviors. Singling out Jews is the same old antisemitic music that we hear since the middle ages.
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Afro,
I agree with this assessment.
I’d like to leave them up so people can see the evolution of my views. If you read the newest pieces from this year and compare them to the beginning of this blog the difference is like night and day. The bullshit statement from RationalWiki that “Rushton is extensively quoted here” is wrong as we all know.
I agree. You can reverse it to fit anything. Though there is evidence (Kevin Macdonald’s work) that the Jews evolved a group strategy, group selection, and that’s why they’re nepotistic.
All in all, I will edit the politically charged pieces to better reflect my current views.
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These things are always hit pieces, never about fairly presenting someone’s views.
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Of course not. While I do agree if it were say early 2016 and they wrote this I wouldn’t really have a problem with it. The fact that this is written now, even after I’ve revised/am rethinking my views is bullshit and a clear attempt to discredit me. Well logical arguments and data matter the most (which RationalWiki should understand…).
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Rational wiki’s existence seems pointless, it’s basically a more politically correct Wikipedia which misinterpret a shitton of people.
But in your case, I do understand that they misinterpreted you, thanks to quotes such as:
“The same can be said for Negros[sic] in America as well. They are deviant, dysfunctional, they cause distress in our country and finally, they pose a danger to us, our families and societies as a whole. Just like those immigrants we have come into our countries who cannot assimilate because it’s not in their biology.”
It is heavily and politically biased here.
“deviant, not in their biology”
This is basically genetic determinism here, if you still stand by everything you wrote in this article, be aware that even Kirkegaard disproved some point of it, with his meta analysis showing no effect from diversity when corrected for intelligence.
So if we stop mass immigration and fix problems that affects “negros” brain, it might get better in the future, since there is no proof that they’re “genetically determined” to stay “dysfunctional” forever (That is my position).
See this paper:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41562-016-0005
“a recent paper (Caspi, 2016): “A segment comprising 22% of
the cohort accounted for 36% of the cohort’s injury insurance claims; 40% of excess obese kilograms; 54% of cigarettes smoked; 57% of hospital nights; 66% of welfare benefits, 77% of fatherless child-rearing; 78% of prescription fills; and 81% of criminal convictions. Childhood risks, including poor brain health at three years of age, predicted this segment with large effect sizes. Early-years interventions that are effective for this population segment could yield very
large returns on investment.”
This paper seems to goes against your old article, unless the cohort from New Zealand also happen to act this way thanks to their genes alone.
“Environment increasingly depends on their genes, rather than being the cause of their exogenous behavior”
Do you really still stand by that? Didn’t you claimed recently that genes cannot express without environment?
You even stated that you don’t know why blacks commit crimes more often than other groups, this quote seems to contradict yourself.
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I know that you’re now not as biased as before, but it is not truly suprising that people can misinterpret you, considering things which implie the contrary (88, bell curve before…etc), rationalwiki is still trash though because they only searched for what they wanted to see without going in depth.
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Fair enough, but what about the other post I sent? I said that Blacks had successful communities under reconstruction and segregation to a lesser extent. Their IQ actually rose and probably would have surpass Whites per capita have we had land reparations.
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I don’t recall. Which post?
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I thought I post it. In any case, I assume you read Tomas Sowell Black Rednecks and White Liberals?
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I have not but I will read it in the future. What about it?
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Well it’s states that Blacks ghetto culture has descendant from the White Southern poverty culture. From it’s speech and mannerism to the laziness trait. Considering how underdeveloped the South is and it’s hatred of higher learning, it makes sense.
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I have read some older books that corroborate that, maybe Sowell cited them. One is from the 1920s, Shadow of the Plantation which is a very complete ethnography of rural southern Blacks. It is also briefly evoked in The Promised Land. One interesting fact is that most aspects of the ghetto culture predate welfare and urbanization contrary to what conservatives state, these are rather rooted in the sharecropping system which maintained a culture of poverty and prevented some forms of social control that usually lower violence and marital instability. There are many good reads on the topic, the best ones are the older ones which are free from current ideological interpretations.
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To Afro,
Honestly, from a environment standpoint, these types of explanations always made the most sense to me, ones that actually centers and discusses the sequence and mechanisms in society that ensures stability and applies it from one culture .
The problem with this kind of approach in ethnic differences have often been simplified models and lack of depth, but examples like yours corrects for that as you’ve done for common explanations modern people hold on “ghetto” culture.
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It also helps that from my reading going back to the 19th century, people observed how Muslims “advanced” blacks in regards to Wealth and crime better than Missionaries.
I saved notes that explain how it was due to Islamic conversion being fueled by cooperation in trade and mutual interests while with initial approached in Christianity in Africa and the New World the missionaries focused less on “sins” that would hinder an actual community and focused more on pagan customs related to dancing and singing.
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has rr seen the data from his cousin luigi at Washington U? an example of an extreme intervention which works for everyone. http://www.pnas.org/content/101/17/6659.full
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Interesting study. I’m well aware of intermittent fasting’s benefits for cancer, life extension, etc.
Both systolic and diastolic blood pressures in the CR group were remarkably low, with values in the range found in 10-year-olds (16) (Table 2)
Interesting. I wouldn’t say that CR is extreme, nor would I say intermittent fasting is extreme either, whether it’s a 16/8 fast/feed schedule or fasting for a week at a time (it’s very possible read Dr Jason Fung). Fasting could cure so many diseases/maladies that are said to be ‘genetic’ but I wouldn’t say it’s extreme not to eat for an extended period of time. You only say that due to the culture set up by Big Food that we need to eat three times a day etc.
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for the record it turns out dimaggio’s record is not what gould claimed it to be. not exactly. simulations showed.
the longest streak in baseball history was 56 games or more 49% of the time.
the difference between longest and second longest was 12 games or more 15% of the time.
what was odd about dimaggio’s streak is the year it occured and that he was the streaker. even though this was the same year williams hit .404 iirc, the simulations showed such years had the longest streak only 5% of the time, and dimaggio was the 46th most likely to have the record.
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Did Gould write about this in Full House? I don’t recall. Do you have a cite for the simulation?
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yes. simulation: https://arxiv.org/pdf/0807.5082.pdf. gould’s original article: http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/09332480.1989.10554932?journalCode=ucha20
but i did learn from a 2016 documentary that aroldis chapman is probably not the fastest pitcher ever. bob feller began pitching in the 1930s. both he and nolan ryan could throw faster than chapman. given the variation in speed for any pitcher, it seems likely both feller and ryan sometimes threw faster than 108mph.
so this may be another example of a species limit which can’t be exceeded by selection from existing genetic variation. if such could be done one would expect the increased talent pool and new training methods to make chapman the fastest ever by a lot.
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Your RationalWiki article was created by a fake user named “AntifaGuy”. Its the same person who created all the other entries from Emil Kirkegaard, John Fuerst, Davide Piffer etc. This person isn’t even a real ANTIFA, but a neo-Nazi himself who goes by the name Mikemikev (just Google). He got blocked recently impersonating Kirkegaard on Wikipedia – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Emil_Kirkegaard
A whole thread on his internet trolling which points out he’s both an ANTIFA and nazi-
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/mikemikev-michael-coombs-twinkle-toes.17243/page-711
The thread title is “Mikemikev / Michael Coombs / Twinkle Toes – Pedo Teacher and Neo-Nazi, Advocate of Child Murder, Secret JewMuslim ANTIFA”
Basically he’s just a nutcase and troll. He impersonates Antifas, Muslims etc., while he’s a self-admitted neo-Nazi.
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The same person “Mikemikev” has left a trail of impersonations: https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Talk:Davide_Piffer#impersonations Note that he has impersonated “RACEREALIST88” on a now blocked rationalwiki account. I noticed the Open Psych forum and Emil Kirkegaard banned him, so that might be why he’s doing this.
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Thanks for this information. I’m aware that he was, supposedly ‘antifa’ based on the email he used when he made his comment. What’s pretty funny also is that this individual (mikemikev) also comments on Unz Review. And, as you’d guess, he has a very different tone from the tone he uses here, and seems to imply that he believes so-called ‘racist’ things. He seems extremely unhinged.
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“ANTIFAguy” is very unlikely to be Mikemikev, but fits, with extensive evidence, including comments from “Willow” and probably “Zeros,” with Oliver D. Smith — or, some possibility, it’s his twin brother, Darryl L. Smith. The Wikipedia account in the name of EmilKirkegaard was definitely an impersonation sock, the Smiths create many of those. And they create massive smokescreens designed to confuse. If ANTIFAguy is Mikemikev, he has become extraordinarily sophisticated at imitating Oliver. I don’t think so. Oliver and his brother have managed to confuse administrators on Wikipedia and elsewhere, I’ve been studying this since I discovered and confirmed impersonation socking on Wikipedia, validated by steward checkuser. (You won’t find this on Wikipedia, they don’t pay attention to what happens on the meta wiki.)
One of the Smith brothers’ standard goals is to get “enemies” fighting with each other. If you want more information, I have been working on documentation since October 2017 or so, see http://coldfusioncommunity.net/anglo-pyramidologist/
Questions are welcome.
There was also a deletion request on your RationalWiki page on RationalWiki by “EvilGremlin.” That was also Oliver. Skeptical was probably Darryl. What is amazing about the Smith brother history is how readily knee-jerk — or just plain jerk — wiki users fall for the massive deceptions. Basically, the Smiths pretend to be one of the crowd on RationalWiki, and “If he’s one of us, he’s good!
Legal action is under preparation. If you are interested, leave a comment on that blog page I linked, and give me a real email address, requesting I contact you. If you want the comment to not be visible, I will not approve it, and will email you.
I have no idea of your politics, and my work is to identify impersonation and defamation, without any political agenda. these guys are about as nasty as they come. They real-life harass, but, so far, no violence.
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Thanks for the information. It doesn’t really bother me. This is obviously a pseudonym. I don’t need legal action. Thanks for your comment.
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I believe Abd Lomax is a far-right Muslim, he has written articles defending Mikemikev. Rationalwiki has a page about him https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Abd_ul-Rahman_Lomax
Lomax has defended race realists and alt right individuals such as Emil Kirkegaard. The legal thing appears to be nonsense though. You can’t sue somebody over using a harmless pseudonym on Rationalwiki! That’s funny.
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This is standard Smith brother deception, radically misrepresenting history and fact. That page was created by a Smith brother, very likely Darryl L. Smith, who was until recently a long series of accounts on RationalWiki, most recently “Debunking spiritualism.” Oliver Smith had been outing his brother, many times, and eventually, Darryl went on a deletion rampage, then apparently realized how visible this made him, and so he “retired” and, of course, immediately showed up with a new account, claiming he had been mpersonated. The story makes no sense, the behavior was pure Smith brother behavior, pursuing an obvious Smith brother agenda. And then, of course, I was accused of impersonating DS (requiring me to hack his password, which is something I have never done or attempted, and the entire behavior I’m accused of is actually unprecedented. I’m a real person using my real name and have done so in about thirty years of on-line activity. Until very recently, as a result of massive exposure, Oliver Smith actually came out into the open, whereas before documentation of Smith brother activity was called a “paranoid conspiracy.” As a result of this, we now have confirmation of some of the major aspects of it.
And then he claimed it was all a lie, a deception he made up seven years ago. He lies coming and going, and I am not one to easily claim that someone is “lying,” merely because I think they are wrong. He does that all the time….
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It is a paranoid conspiracy- http://therationalarchives.wikia.com/wiki/Smith_brother_conspiracy_theory
There is no truth to these claims. Secondly, I never originated them; trolls on Encylopedia Dramatica did. I just played trolls at their own game and went along with the fake biography of me. Why wouldn’t I? I’m not likely to actually reveal true details about my personal life because of stalkers defaming me.
And you’re so dumb you cannot even get my name correct. My middle name isn’t David, and so you’ve actually failed to dox me on your blog, instead posting someone else’s (!) personal details. Rightpedia now copied your fake dox in their hit-piece on me and so now when they attack me they cannot even get my name correct. lol. You’re an absolute buffoon.
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Both Mikemikev and Abd Lomax are involved in creating a ridiculous amount of sockpuppets on RationalWiki and impersonating others, but then blame their impersonations onto innocent users, myself included. Their abuse is extensive, but now a list was made on a wikia site to document their sockpuppets:
http://therationalarchives.wikia.com/wiki/Mikemikev_sockpuppets
http://therationalarchives.wikia.com/wiki/Abd_ul-Rahman_Lomax_sockpuppets
None of the above mentioned accounts in the post by Lomax are mine and notice how these idiots make baseless allegations with zero evidence; they’re liars. Mikemikev has been impersonating me since 2013. In contrast to Lomax, I offer concrete evidence. Just check accounts to see they are Mikemikev as blocked by admins impersonating me and others, even using my real name:
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Oliver_D_Smith
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This is, again, typical. I named some accounts that leap out as “Smith brother accounts,” for anyone with a knowledge of the history. Oliver will then show up and claim that these are sockpuppets of someone else, but that does not match the history. The “evidence” cited by Oliver, here, are actions, sometimes by his brother, Darryl L. Smith, sometimes by confused RationalWiki administrators. Notice how the RationalWikiWiki pages were created by Oliver D. Smith. The page listing my alleged RationalWiki sock puppets is almost entirely impersonations socking, a classic Smith trick. At the time those were created, I actually created some real sock accounts and identified them definitively as me. Remarkably, none of those accounts were listed.
The basis for my original identification of impersonation socking by Smith brothers was originally from WikiMedia Foundation stewards. All that was documented, and was heavily attacked by mountains of sock puppets, others were recruited, and eventually complaints — private and very likely defamatory, including complaints by the Smith brothers — led to an “Office ban,” which, then, is used in turn to confirm that Abd is Bad.
This is one of the many occasions for legal action. It’s fairly straightforward. Basically, this has gone on for years, I found. Anyone who pipes up about it is attacked.
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More nonsense from this senile old man who has nothing better to do but stalk me everywhere and write gibberish and lies. As you see he’s obsessed with my family and will go as far as trying to dox my family on his blog which is why he has a reputation as an internet harasser and has been banned all over the internet.
I have no brother active on any of these websites. see http://therationalarchives.wikia.com/wiki/Smith_brother_conspiracy_theory
The “Darryl Smith” he’s obsessed with is a phantom: http://therationalarchives.wikia.com/wiki/Darryl_L._Smith
As to me lying once about Darryl, nope. I never originated this silly misinformation, trolls did on Encylopedia Dramatica who wrote a fake biography about me. I just found it funny to troll the trolls there with these made up claims. I didn’t expect though psychotic internet stalkers to then take this BS serious and start writing thousands of words, doxing my brother on their blogs.
“I actually created some real sock accounts.”
Thanks for admitting you’re a troll. Get some fresh air and get of your computer for once old man… I don’t think the owner of this blog wants your BS here. In contrast I’m working on a blog response to notpoliticallycorrect concerning race; this doesn’t involve you. No one gives a shit about your RationalWiki drama.
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Since Abd is so obsessed with RationalWiki; some things if he’s actually interested in truth rather than writing falsehoods on his blog:
Mikemikev is a far-right holocaust denier and dislikes the so-called ‘alt-lite’ for its more moderate right-wing political positions that he regards as a sell-out to his Nazi and white nationalist ideals. He therefore creates RationalWiki accounts impersonating either me or ANTIFA/anti-racists to attack these ‘alt-lite’ individuals. He’s done this for past 5 years. He regularly pretends to be anti-racists in order to attack individuals he dislikes e.g. https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Peter_Sweden [Sweden is a former Holocaust denier and anti-Semite, but changed his views to become pro-Israel which upset Mikemikev so he created Sweden’s RationalWiki article either impersonating me or pretending to be an anti-racist, looks like both looking at the edits]. Mikemikev then tried to pin this article creation on me and still does, when I never made it; the funny thing is prior to Mikemikev lying and blaming this onto me – I had never even heard of Peter Sweden before and he’s of no interest to me whatsoever.
Mikemikev made a big mistake trying to pin his Peter Sweden RationalWiki article onto me because I’ve never created RW articles on more moderate ‘alt-lite’ people, only hardcore fascists, alt-righters and neo-Nazis. I even explained this in my posts, for example as I mentioned on Rationalwiki wikia:
“Generally speaking Smith when active on RationalWiki was never interested in creating articles on more moderate right-wingers, only the alt-right and neo-Nazi lunatics, mostly for their pseudoscience. Smith disagrees with Sweden’s politics, but wouldn’t have bothered creating an article on him like he voted for Roaming Millenial’s article to be deleted; Smith noted in March 2018 on RationalWiki that he didn’t focus on the so-called alt-lite civic nationalists
“It was deleted for being an attack article with no sources. Someone could re-write though with sources. Personally, I have no interest in covering “alt-lite” civic nationalist individuals like RM. Don’t agree with these views, but they’re clearly more moderate than the alt-right and I think RationalWiki should only focus on extremists. ODS (talk) 22:35, 13 March 2018 (UTC http://archive.is/JZoiW
I don’t personally agree with the politics of pro-Trump alt-lite/civic nationalists, but it’s a waste of time to cover those sort of people on RationalWiki because they aren’t far-right extremists and they are a sizable % of public opinion. So as I explained, I only used RationalWiki to cover actual extremists as well as religious fundamentalists.
Mikemikev though has been impersonating me on accounts in order to attack people like Peter Sweden. And he probably did the same for “notpoliticallycorrect”. I get blamed by him for these articles and lots of others, when I have nothing to do with them.
http://therationalarchives.wikia.com/wiki/Mikemikev_sockpuppets
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Mikemikev’s latest shenanigans:
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Richard_Haier
I never created this, but Mikemikev is already blaming it onto me and I’ve had now Emil Kirkegaard falsely accuse me of writing this on Twitter since Mikemikev showed up there recently on sockpuppets to spam this shit. When Mikemikev falsely accuses me of owning an account – it is always his own.
I had no idea who Haier is until Mikemikev linked this article to me, but there are clearly errors in the article that are not what I would write e.g. the Intelligence journal clearly isn’t a pseudo-journal, but is a peer-reviewed academic journal, despite it having a couple of cranks on its editorial board, yet many other of the editors are respectable scientists https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_(journal)
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Hi, I wrote a post in your defence concerning RationalWiki:
https://oliver–smith.blogspot.com/2018/07/a-defence-of-racerealist.html
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http://therationalarchives.wikia.com/wiki/Mikemikev_sockpuppets
◾Mikemikev.
◾ Mikemikev1.
◾ Mikemikev is cool
◾ Michael Coombs.
◾ Michael C.
◾ BNP Member.
◾ Max Triggers.
◾ FrankDickman.
◾ Maunus (impersonation of Wikipedia editor Maunus).
◾ Richard Chepstow.
◾ Rupert Kirby.
◾ Wangmeister.
◾ HumanPhenotypes (impersonation of the owner of the Human Phenotypes website).
◾ John 82.
◾ JohnnyFrostbite.
◾ Communist Scientist (impersonation of so-called SJW).
◾ AntifaScientist (impersonation of ANTIFA).
◾ Antifa Ireland (impersonation of Antifa and concern troll).
◾ WeAreEqual (impersonation of anti-racist).
◾ AntiRacist (impersonation of anti-racist).
◾ Anti racist activist. (impersonation of anti-racist and concern troll).
◾ Kevin.
◾ Shmuel.
◾ Saxton (concern troll).
◾ Sam Rainbow.
◾ Murgatroid (false flag).
◾ Cats1993.
◾ ANTIFAGuy (impersonation of ANTIFA).
◾ Anti-Fascist for life (impersonation of ANTIFA).
◾ Antifascist (impersonation of Oliver D. Smith, pretending to be ANTIFA and false flag).
◾ Jon Donniz (false flag, shows up immediately on an IP to defend himself).
◾ JonDonis.
◾ TheJonDonnis (false flag).
◾StarWarsNerd (false flag).
◾OC68 Stevenson Mu (false flag).
◾Moxie14 (impersonation of anti-racist).
◾Cheeese (false flag).
◾PS2 (false flag and impersonation of Oliver D. Smith).
◾H4 (concern troll).
◾Emil Kirkegaard (impersonation of Emil Kirkegaard).[2]
◾ E. O. W Kirkegaard (impersonation of Emil Kirkegaard).
◾ Kirkegaard (impersonation of Emil Kirkegaard).
◾ EmilOWK2 (impersonation of Emil Kirkegaard).
◾Mr Keyes (concern troll).
◾Vimpto (concern troll).
◾Dan Grimy (concern troll).
◾Thorwold C Franke 2 (impersonation of Thorwald C. Franke).
◾Scythes.
◾ Anti-racist skinhead (impersonation of anti-racist and false-flag).
◾ Nick Lowles Fan (impersonation of anti-racist and false-flag).
◾ Hope Not Hate member (impersonation of anti-racist and false-flag).
◾ Rationalwikilurker (concern troll).
◾ DougWellerisalunatic (impersonation and false flag of Doug Weller)
◾ All dogs go to heaven, all white girls go to hell.
◾ Mike Brown Got What He Deserved.
◾ Hdhdbhxgdvgddgvd.
◾ Hu (false flag).
◾ OldWatch.
◾ Gust (concern troll).
◾ DaveJefferson.
◾ Kroms (false flag and impersonation of Krom).
◾ Goblin Face Sciborg (concern troll).
◾ Goblin Face Sciborg Jon Donnis (concern troll).
◾ Kromscape (false flag and impersonation of Krom).
◾ Krom loser (impersonation of Krom).
◾ PhilPhilpot.
◾ Oliver D Smith (impersonation of Oliver D. Smith).
◾ Oliver Smith schizoid (impersonation of Oliver D. Smith).[3]
◾ Social Justice Warrior (impersonation of so-called SJW).
◾ CharlieBass.
◾ EgalitarianJay (impersonation of EgalitarianJay and false flag).[4]
◾ Social Justice Internet Scientist (impersonation of so-called SJW).
◾ Pringles (concern troll)
◾ Schizophrenic (impersonation of Oliver D. Smith).[5]
◾ Faulty Logic (concern troll).
◾ EDpenofdoom (concern troll).
◾ Tuna (concern troll and impersonation of Oliver D. Smith).
◾ Lysdexia (concern troll).
◾ RaceRealist88 (impersonation of NotPoliticallyCorrect blog owner).
◾ Topseudoscience.
◾ Robert Defro.
◾ Welsh people are cool.
◾ Eleonora.
◾ Apso2 (concern troll).
◾ Billy the kid (concern troll).
◾ John Fuerst (impersonation of John Fuerst).
◾ Fuerst (impersonation of John Fuerst).
◾ John chuck Fuerst (impersonation of John Fuerst).
◾ JohnFuerstwithhispantsdown (concern troll and impersonation of John Fuerst).
◾ MusikAnimal.
◾ Erhul.
◾ 1488.
◾ Neonazi10287.
◾ Skinhead_1488.
◾ Asshole1.
◾ Real David Piffer (impersonation of Davide Piffer).
◾ Davide Piffer is a Neo-Nazi (impersonation of Davide Piffer).
◾ Michael Coombs Heyguy.
◾ Rome_Viharo_Krom_heyguy (impersonation of multiple names).
◾ Heyguy 2.
◾ Heyguy 3.
◾ Heyguy 4.
◾ Zeros2 (impersonation of user Zeros).
◾ RationalP2 (impersonation of user RationalP).
◾ Rationaldriver.
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A final comment about RationalWiki, since I recently discovered coldfusioncommunity.net/schizophrenic-oliver-d-smith
Abd lies on this blog and claims this is my account, when it’s a blatant impersonation of me by Mikemikev and is blocked as a fake account.
I obviously don’t have schizophrenia. Mikemikev however has been impersonating me on accounts for past 5 years claiming I do or other mental illnesses, while another of his delusions about me is that I’m an Antifa or communist and will also impersonate me or pretend to be antifas on accounts.
Most recently Mikemikev was caught impersonating a woman on twitter. http://therationalarchives.wikia.com/wiki/Mikemikev_sockpuppets#Twitter
I’ve repeatedly contacted RationalWiki telling them about all these fake accounts and to get a check-user tool (like Wikipedia), but they never do. So this allows Mikemikev to sit online all day creating accounts pretending to be other people and getting away with it.
All the following recent socks, are Mikemikev impersonating emil kirkegaard, myself and an antifa:
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Antifa_activist
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/I_like_Oliver_Smith_a_ton
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Emil_Kirkegaard
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Emil_Kirkegaard_2
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Emil_Deleetdk
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Emil_kirkegaard_3
https://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Emil_Kirkegaard&action=history
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Mikemikev has been vandalising RationalWikiWiki (a fan wikia site of RationalWiki) where I was made a sysop:
http://therationalarchives.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/86.165.219.68
http://therationalarchives.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/212.159.40.81
http://therationalarchives.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/86.163.169.97
Lying to this guy is a pathological condition, and he might not know he’s doing it because he’s so psychotic. So for example Mikemikev in one comment says:
“No, I am not a Mikemikev sock.”
The dumbass though has been caught using the same IPs British telecom PLC, that matches his most recent socking on Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/109.144.219.10
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Mikemikev/Archive#29_July_2018
All these Ips are related, and state British telecom PLC. So they’re obviously all him. Yet even with this technical proof, he still lies and claims these accounts or Ips are not his. This is a sad case of a man with severe mental illness. Notice also how he’s creating an infinite amount of sockpuppets also on Wikipedia, with his latest blocked accounts only yesterday. He sits doing this through normal working hours and must be unemployed.
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@RR
If you want I can create a deletion request to remove your RationalWiki article.
A recent update is that RationalWiki today are now onto all of Mikemikev’s impersonations after multiple complaints have been stacking up for years and people compiling evidence; today they blocked yet more of his fake accounts:
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Wang
– Mikemikev pretending to be a Chinese man who cannot spell English
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/K._Peters_BSc(Hons)
– Mikemikev impersonating a family relative of mine
Your article was created by Mikemikev impersonating an Antifa:
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/ANTIFAGuy
Since he’s now been exposed as the person behind all these fake accounts – his article creations can be deleted.
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There’s a minor section about non-hereditarianism racialism:
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Hereditarianism#Racialism
“Most racialists who nowadays call themselves “race realists” are proponents of hereditarianism. The exception includes a small number of academics who argue for the existence of human races, but maintain the black-white IQ gap has zero or a trivially small genetic basis e.g. Michael O. Hardimon who defends a minimalist concept of races “characterized by nothing more than outward physical differences and health-related biological susceptibilities.”[15] Spencer (2014) argues for a similar biological race definition, and states his theory in terms of genetics “does not entail that there are aesthetic, intellectual, or moral differences among races.”[16] The pioneer of racialist non-hereditarianism was Theodosius Dobzhansky who was an outspoken proponent of the idea human races exist, but published a paper criticizing Jensen’s hereditarianism hypothesis[17], argued for race equality,[18] and in his book Genetic Diversity and Human Equality (1973) also rejected hereditarianism, given the lack of evidence and reality environmental factors most likely explain the black-white IQ gap.
Because non-hereditarianism is a minority viewpoint within racialism and hereditarianism is racist, Hardimon (2017) re-labels himself as a minimalist race proponent opposed to a racialist to avoid the negative connotations or harmful affect of racialism: “The minimalist concept of race provides a nonmalific alternative to the racialist concept of race”.[19] Non-hereditarianism racialism while more reasonable than hereditarianism because it rejects racism and white supremacism, is still a pseudoscience since human races don’t exist as biological constructs, but are social constructs e.g. some ethnic groups considered to be “white” today weren’t a century ago, see definitions of whiteness in the United States.”
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