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Find the Genes: Testosterone Version

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Testosterone has a similar heritability to IQ (between .4 and .6; Harris, Vernon, and Boomsma, 1998Travison et al, 2014). To most, this would imply a significant effect of genes on the production of testosterone and therefore we should find a lot of SNPs that affect the production of testosterone. However, testosterone production is much more complicated than that. In this article, I will talk about testosterone production and discuss two studies which purport to show a few SNPs associated with testosterone. Now, this doesn’t mean that the SNPs cause high/low testosterone, just that they were associated. I will then speak briefly on the ‘IQ SNPs’ and compare it to ‘testosterone SNPs’.

Testosterone SNPs?

Complex traits are ‘controlled’ by many genes and environmental factors (Garland Jr., Zhao, and Saltzman, 2016). Testosterone is a complex trait, so along with the heritability of testosterone being .4 to .6, there must be many genes of small effect that influence testosterone, just like they supposedly do for IQ. This is obviously wrong for testosterone, which I will explain below.

Back in 2011 it was reported that genetic markers were discovered ‘for’ testosterone, estrogen, and SHGB production, while showing that genetic variants in the SHGB locus, located on the X chromosome, were associated with substantial testosterone variation and increased the risk of low testosterone (important to keep in mind) (Ohlsson et al, 2011). The study was done since low testosterone is linked to numerous maladies. Low testosterone is related to cardiovascular risk (Maggio and Basaria, 2009), insulin sensitivity (Pitteloud et al, 2005Grossman et al, 2008), metabolic syndrome (Salam, Kshetrimayum, and Keisam, 2012Tsuijimora et al, 2013), heart attack (Daka et al, 2015), elevated risk of dementia in older men (Carcaillon et al, 2014), muscle loss (Yuki et al, 2013), and stroke and ischemic attack (Yeap et al, 2009). So this is a very important study to understand the genetic determinants of low serum testosterone.

Ohlsson et al (2011) conducted a meta-analysis of GWASs, using a sample of 14,429 ‘Caucasian’ men. To be brief, they discovered two SNPs associated with testosterone by performing a GWAS of serum testosterone concentrations on 2 million SNPs on over 8,000 ‘Caucasians’. The strongest associated SNP discovered was rs12150660 was associated with low testosterone in this analysis, as well as in a study of Han Chinese, but it is rare along with rs5934505 being associated with an increased risk of low testosterone(Chen et al, 2016). Chen et al (2016) also caution that their results need replication (but I will show that it is meaningless due to how testosterone is produced in the body).

Ohlsson et al (2011) also found the same associations with the same two SNPs, along with rs6258 which affect how testosterone binds to SHGB. Ohlsson et al (2011) also validated their results: “To validate the independence of these two SNPs, conditional meta-analysis of the discovery cohorts including both rs12150660 and rs6258 in an additive genetic linear model adjusted for covariates was calculated.” Both SNPs were independently associated with low serum testosterone in men (less than 300ng/dl which is in the lower range of the new testosterone guidelines that just went into effect back in July). Men who had 3 or more of these SNPs were 6.5 times more likely to have lower testosterone.

Ohlsson et al (2011) conclude that they discovered genetic variants in the SHGB locus and X chromosome that significantly affect serum testosterone production in males (noting that it’s only on ‘Caucasians’ so this cannot be extrapolated to other races). It’s worth noting that, as can be seen, these SNPs are not really associated with variation in the normal range, but near the lower end of the normal range in which people would then need to seek medical help for a possible condition they may have.

In infant males, no SNPs were significantly associated with salivary testosterone levels, and the same was seen for infant females. Individual variation in salivary testosterone levels during mini-puberty (Kurtoglu and Bastug, 2014) were explained by environmental factors, not SNPs (Xia et al, 2014). They also replicated Carmaschi et al (2010) who also showed that environmental factors influence testosterone more than genetic factors in infancy. There is a direct correlation between salivary testosterone levels and free serum testosterone (Wang et al, 1981; Johnson, Joplin, and Burin, 1987), so free serum testosterone was indirectly tested.

This is interesting because, as I’ve noted here numerous times, testosterone is indirectly controlled by DNA, and it can be raised or lowered due to numerous environmental variables (Mazur and Booth, 1998; Mazur, 2016), such as  marriage (Gray et al, 2002Burnham et al, 2003Gray, 2011Pollet, Cobey, and van der Meij, 2013Farrelly et al, 2015;  Holmboe et al, 2017), having children (Gray et al, 2002Gray et al, 2006Gettler et al, 2011); to obesity (Palmer et al, 2012Mazur et al, 2013Fui, Dupuis, and Grossman, 2014Jayaraman, Lent-Schochet, and Pike, 2014Saxbe et al, 2017) smoking is not clearly related to testosterone (Zhao et al, 2016), and high-carb diets decrease testosterone (Silva, 2014). Though, most testosterone decline can be ameliorated with environmental interventions (Shi et al, 2013), it’s not a foregone conclusion that testosterone will sharply decrease around age 25-30.

Studies on ‘testosterone genes’ only show associations, not causes, genes don’t directly cause testosterone production, it is indirectly controlled by DNA, as I will explain below. These studies on the numerous environmental variables that decrease testosterone is proof enough of the huge effects of environment on testosterone production and synthesis.

How testosterone is produced in the body

There are five simple steps to testosterone production: 1) DNA codes for mRNA; 2) mRNA codes for the synthesis of an enzyme in the cytoplasm; 3) luteinizing hormone stimulates the production of another messenger in the cell when testosterone is needed; 4) this second messenger activates the enzyme; 5) the enzyme then converts cholesterol to testosterone (Leydig cells produce testosterone in the presence of luteinizing hormone) (Saladin, 2010: 137). Testosterone is a steroid and so there are no ‘genes for’ testosterone.

Cells in the testes enzymatically convert cholesterol into the steroid hormone testosterone. Quoting Saladin (2010: 137):

But to make it [testosterone], a cell of the testis takes in cholesterol and enzymatically converts it to testosterone. This can occur only if the genes for the enzymes are active. Yet a further implication of this is that genes may greatly affect such complex outcomes as behavior, since testosterone strongly influences such behaviors as aggression and sex drive. [RR: Most may know that I strongly disagree with the fact that testosterone *causes* aggression, see Archer, Graham-Kevan and Davies, 2005.] In short, DNA codes only for RNA and protein synthesis, yet it indirectly controls the synthesis of a much wider range of substances concerned with all aspects of anatomy, physiology, and behavior.

testosterone production

 

(Figure from Saladin (2010: 137; Anatomy and Physiology: The Unity of Form and Function)

Genes only code for RNA and protein synthesis, and thusly, genes do not *cause* testosterone production. This is a misconception most people have; if it’s a human trait, then it must be controlled by genes, ultimately, not proximately as can be seen, and is already known in biology. Genes, on their own, are not causes but passive templates (Noble, 2008; Noble, 2011Krimsky, 2013; Noble, 2013; Also read Exploring Genetic Causation in Biology). This is something that people need to understand; genes on their own do nothing until they are activated by the system. 

What does this have to do with ‘IQ genes’?

My logic here is very simple: 1) Testosterone has the same heritability range as IQ. 2) One would assume—like is done with IQ—that since testosterone is a complex trait that it must be controlled by ‘many genes of small effect’. 3) Therefore, since I showed that there are no ‘genes for’ testosterone and only ‘associations’ (which could most probably be mediated by environmental interventions) with low testosterone, may the same hold true for ‘IQ genes/SNPS’? These testosterone SNPs I talked about from Ohlsson et al (2011) were associated with low testosterone. These ‘IQ SNP’ studies (Davies et al, 2017; Hill et al, 2017; Savage et al, 2017) are the same—except we have an actual idea of how testosterone is produced in the body, we know that DNA is indirectly controlling its production, and, most importantly, there is/are no ‘gene[s] for’ testosterone.

Conclusion

Testosterone has the same heritability range as IQ, is a complex trait like IQ, but, unlike how IQ is purported to be, it [testosterone] is not controlled by genes; only indirectly. My reasoning for using this example is simple: something has a moderate to high heritability, and so most would assume that ‘numerous genes of small effect’ would have an influence on testosterone production. This, as I have shown, is false. It’s also important to note that Ohlsson et al (2011) showed associated SNPs in regards to low testosterone—not testosterone levels in the normal range. Of course, only when physiological values are outside of the normal  range will we notice any difference between men, and only then will we find—however small—genetic differences between men with normal and low levels of testosterone (I wouldn’t be surprised if lifestyle factors explained the lower testosterone, but we’ll never know that in regards to this study).

Testosterone production is a real, measurable physiologic process, as is the hormone itself; which is not unlike the so-called physiologic process that ‘g’ is supposed to be, which does not mimic any known physiologic process in the body, which is covered with unscientific metaphors like ‘power’ and ‘energy’ and so on. This example, in my opinion, is important for this debate. Sure, Ohlsson et al (2011) found a few SNPs associated with low testosterone. That’s besides the point. They are only associated with low testosterone; they do not cause low testosterone. So, I assert, these so-called associated SNPs do not cause differences in IQ test scores; just because they’re ‘associated’ doesn’t mean they ’cause’ the differences in the trait in question. (See Noble, 2008; Noble, 2011Krimsky, 2013; Noble, 2013.) The testosterone analogy that I made here buttresses my point due to the similarities (it is a complex trait with high heritability) with IQ.


10 Comments

  1. ron burgundy says:

    …in regards to

    That’s besides the point…

    should read:

    …in regard to

    That’s beside the point…

    now rr needs to explain the claimed success of genetic scoring in cattle breeding, aka the super cow.

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  2. ron burgundy says:

    one too many slashes. here it is. one of many. genomic scoring is also working fairly well for human height. steve knows. he’s the prof behind the BGI study, which revealed nothing./

    http://infoproc.blogspot.com/2017/11/behold-super-cow.html

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    • RaceRealist says:

      Cows are easier than people because, as domesticated animals, they have smaller effective breeding population and less genetic diversity. Nevertheless, I expect very similar methods to be applied to humans within the next 5-10 years.

      5-10 years is always 5-10 years away…

      Milk and meat yield are actual measurable traits. Height is an actual measurable trait. The bell curve isn’t a reality, so I don’t really think that Hsu will accomplish anything. He’ll keep pushing up his “boundary” up until there are no more people to test. People like Hsu won’t give up, and I think they’ll attempt to ‘prove it’ no matter what.

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  3. ron burgundy says:

    what has rr said about hormesis and eustress?

    alcohol and fasting seem to be examples. exercise too. no rest. no gains. overtraining is a real thing.

    what does it not apply to? one can always claim the therapeutic dose is smaller.

    is a very little plutonium good for you? a very very little? like in Silkwood?

    it’s funny how some health nuts will still smoke cigars occasionally.

    and i do know that mercury and lead have a threshold below which they are harmless.

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  4. Evodevo says:

    ”I wouldn’t be surprised if lifestyle factors explained the lower testosterone”

    ”it [testosterone] is not controlled by genes”

    ”Of course, only when physiological values are outside of the normal range will we notice any difference between men, and only then will we find—however small—genetic differences between men with normal and low levels of testosterone ”

    ”I showed that there are no ‘genes for’ testosterone and only ‘associations’ (which could most probably be mediated by environmental interventions)”

    More genes than you could remember, exist, which influence phenotypic traits like testosterone concentration.

    https://t.co/WXRPoTKDeS

    ”there must be many genes of small effect that influence testosterone, just like they supposedly do for IQ. This is obviously wrong for testosterone, which I will explain below.”

    ”most would assume that ‘numerous genes of small effect’ would have an influence on testosterone production. This, as I have shown, is false.”

    You have not shown this

    ”Testosterone has the same heritability range as IQ, is a complex trait like IQ”

    ”My reasoning for using this example is simple: something has a moderate to high heritability”

    Tissue development is not equal in complexity to a T metabolic pathway(s)

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    • RaceRealist says:

      More genes than you could remember, exist, which influence phenotypic traits like testosterone concentration.

      Testosterone is made in the testis after a cell in the testis converts cholesterol into testosterone which only happens after the genes ‘for’ the enzyme are active. In short, DNA codes only for RNA and protein synthesis, yet it indirectly controls the synthesis of a much wider range of substances concerned with all aspects of anatomy, physiology, and behavior.—Ken Saladin

      Thanks for the list of enzymes coded for by genes; that doesn’t prove your point. The claim that “There is/are no gene(s) for testosterone” still holds. Genes indirectly code for it, my claim in the article. Genes do not directly code for testosterone. High heritability of testosterone, too, falls to the same problems as high heritability of IQ—they are gleaned from twin studies and the EEA is false so….

      Your other citations re CAH, aromatase deficiency/excess etc are not evidence for the claim either.

      You have not shown this

      Yes I did because genes do not code for testosterone production. What ultimately causes testosterone production?

      Tissue development is not equal in complexity to a T metabolic pathway(s)

      Bold claim. Wrong, though. Either way both heritability estimates are wrong and genetic information from twin studies cannot be used to infer anything.

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  5. Evodevo says:

    Step 1 genes, step 7 testosterone. Does testosterone need to be at step 4 in order to be influenced by genes and not totally mediated by environmental interventions?

    It doesn’t matter if ribosomes don’t pop out testosterone. Testosterone appears further down the chain of command, and many genes have an effect on it, and many mutations of those genes exist.

    ”Bold claim. Wrong, though.”

    Source?

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    • RaceRealist says:

      Step 5 is testosterone secretion.

      It doesn’t matter if ribosomes don’t pop out testosterone. Testosterone appears further down the chain of command, and many genes have an effect on it, and many mutations of those genes exist.

      The main claim is there are no genes that directly code for testosterone production. That’s true as I’ve shown. DNA indirectly code for testosterone synthesis. Also true. My two premises are true, and my conclusion:

      Source?

      Logic.
      (1) Both traits are complex.
      (2) Both have high heritabilities (which are wrong since they’re gleaned from twin studies which overestimate heritability.
      (3) Therefore they both have similar complexity.

      Testosterone and ‘IQ’ are complex traits. The GWA studies show low correlations which are explained by social class stratification. GWA studies don’t show causation, either. I discussed both GWA studies I’m aware of regarding testosterone. They don’t prove that testosterone production is ‘controlled by genes’.

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